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Arachne Race Reboot Idea.
#61
(04-16-2021, 04:27 AM)WasteWalk Wrote:
(04-16-2021, 04:14 AM)ScarecrowVT Wrote:
(04-16-2021, 04:08 AM)WasteWalk Wrote: they got attention because it's a comically terrible idea just play a fucking spider mutant

This isn't about playing a spider mutant. If I wanted that I would. I even stated that at the end of the post. Maybe you should've read it. 

I'm talking about adding more to the lore. Rebooting a race that needs it and giving it the same treatment that the cat people got. 

Cat people used to be a fetished race then they got brought back in SoA and now they hardly get played. Same thing will happen with Arachne. It will blow up at the start then die down.
I don't know how to explain to you that Cat People and Driders aren't the same thing and are not really comparable as examples
That's why I'm saying fully reboot them and make them different then what the old arachne were!  If you read the post, you will see I used none of the old E1 lore. I used current E3 lore. I added to it. Gave my opinion. The only thing this shares with the old arachne race is. The name. The fact it's spider people. Nothing else.
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#62
I am deeply unsettled by many of the posts in this thread.
#63
i was going to seriously read through every post in this thread and offer my own constructive thoughts

but the initial image scared me off from the main page

so......................................

no.
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#64
for the record, i ceased having any sincere opinions in this thread past the first page, wherein i expressed that i believe that anybody who supports this being added to the game and claims not to be sexually attracted to spider girls is being to some extent disingenuous.

i think rather than railing against any sexuality associated with them it should be accepted as part of what they are, otherwise all you will get is the continued disappointment as people continue to fail your expectations of chaste spider ladies time and time again

here's my actual take:

think of it like vampires; sexuality is actually kind of inherent to the basic concept, and to actively push against it as though it takes away all legitimacy is actually very silly. however, we very obviously have vampire characters who, while they may be sexy, are universally not "yeehaw sexy vampire" as a concept. you can have something sexy without that taking away significantly from it.

i'm sure that if we come together and accept they're sexy, and then give them substance which allows them to exist in the context of the game meaningfully (such as, for instance, being some form of Nyx-spawned Shadowmire guardians in a similar vein to Ents, or even just having Arachne as an alternate sprite for ents with various forms of refluffing (your vines are your spiderlings, of course!) would be much more successful than porting old lore and tying them to a trio of magics when every race that does have a discount is attached to only one

as it is people are latching onto sexy yeehaw spider mommies because there's no webbing (heh) here that actually ties them into the context and story of e3 as it stands. this as written does not really belong in the game in any capacity. people would go 'haha cool backstory' and then proceed to murderfuck their days and nights away because that's more interesting than "arachnid earth elementals". u gotta have a reason for them to exist and right now there's neither anything stopping them from being fluffed nor anything requiring their existence.

make an ent and wiggle ur 80 billion spider-vines at me. same purpose is served
#65
(04-16-2021, 04:48 AM)Milly Wrote: i was going to seriously read through every post in this thread and offer my own constructive thoughts

but the initial image scared me off from the main page

so......................................

no.

I'll remove it so you can read it.

(04-16-2021, 04:48 AM)ferrettamer Wrote: for the record, i ceased having any sincere opinions in this thread past the first page, wherein i expressed that i believe that anybody who supports this being added to the game and claims not to be sexually attracted to spider girls is being to some extent disingenuous.

i think rather than railing against any sexuality associated with them it should be accepted as part of what they are, otherwise all you will get is the continued disappointment as people continue to fail your expectations of chaste spider ladies time and time again

here's my actual take:

think of it like vampires; sexuality is actually kind of inherent to the basic concept, and to actively push against it as though it takes away all legitimacy is actually very silly. however, we very obviously have vampire characters who, while they may be sexy, are universally not "yeehaw sexy vampire" as a concept. you can have something sexy without that taking away significantly from it.

i'm sure that if we come together and accept they're sexy, and then give them substance which allows them to exist in the context of the game meaningfully (such as, for instance, being some form of Nyx-spawned Shadowmire guardians in a similar vein to Ents, or even just having Arachne as an alternate sprite for ents with various forms of refluffing (your vines are your spiderlings, of course!) would be much more successful than porting old lore and tying them to a trio of magics when every race that does have a discount is attached to only one

as it is people are latching onto sexy yeehaw spider mommies because there's no webbing (heh) here that actually ties them into the context and story of e3 as it stands. this as written does not really belong in the game in any capacity. people would go 'haha cool backstory' and then proceed to murderfuck their days and nights away because that's more interesting than "arachnid earth elementals". u gotta have a reason for them to exist and right now there's neither anything stopping them from being fluffed nor anything requiring their existence.

make an ent and wiggle ur 80 billion spider-vines at me. same purpose is served

This is honestly good and constructive feedback. I appreciate the input on it all. You bring up some valid points about it. Most I don't disagree with about it at all. I think respriting an ent would be fine temporarily till the full race is ready. but I'm more or less suggesting this race to be added in later on. 

As for saying they'd add nothing to the story... Vampires are added in randomly when the world has grown dry usually as seen in the past like in SoA. No reason Arachne can't be given the same treatment. 

That's all I have to say about your response and feedback as it was all around a good response that I respect.
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#66
Hello everyone.

Avee here.

Conceptually whilst I see no problem with adding the race of Arachne, my dispute lies in the “meme race” factor, but before I get into that, let me address some of the arguments that have been put forth thus far.

1. I don’t want to play mutant with spider characteristics. I want to play Arachne.

This is entirely illogical on the base level. You can request to have your sprite changed as a mutant, there is no ruling against this, and functionally nothing wrong with it. Whilst I don’t disagree with the proposed racials and the like, my challenge to you is the following.

Play a spider-based mutant, and use the tools on hand to weave Arachne into the lore through that manner. Should you hold legitimate interest, have the spells added, and just like that, you’ve introduced Arachne into the game in a fairly organic manner. It’s up to you however to be fruitful and multiply.

2. I’m just adding more to the lore!

Good for you, solid. A good service to be encouraged by all players surely. This isn’t merely an effort to validate having fetishized spiders introduced, and I’m not even saying you would conduct such behavior. I’m merely stating it’s plain face fetishization.

Even in fantasy they are exclusively there to lure in horny men and kill them. 

3. But Nekomata/Nagual!!

Nekomata were yeehaw Nya!~~ catgirls, which deserved the deaths they got.

Nagual are based on a jaguar which feels nothing but rage for the injustices done in the past.

These are not the same.

They are not parallel, shame on you.

Thusly, if Arachne were to be added for whatever reason, the process to play one should be through application only, akin to the razuka.

Cuckplots are bad.

It’s a race designed for cuckplots.

If they were to be added, I’d hope a strict application process would weed out the degenerate filth who is as if by some black miracle, magnetically drawn to playing this kind of race.

I’m not saying those who want to see this race added are those kinds of people.

I’m saying it will happen, and you need to have a room temperature IQ to not view this as an app only race.

Thanks for reading.
#67
I personally don't really see a need for Arachne to be added as their own, individual race. When they were their own little thing, all they got was access to poison magic. I don't see why, if you REALLY want to play an Arachne, you can't just play a mutant? There have been some pretty cool and interesting mutants, so I don't really see why not?

All you'd have to do is get access to the spider butt sprite/get your own made. From what I know there are 2 variations of the sprite. One from original Eternia and one from Spires.
#68
oh no! watch out for my bulging, egg-filled thorax everyone

>>>>w<<<<
#69
(04-16-2021, 05:01 AM)rea Wrote: oh no! watch out for my bulging, egg-filled thorax everyone

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#70
(04-16-2021, 05:03 AM)WasteWalk Wrote:
(04-16-2021, 05:01 AM)rea Wrote: oh no! watch out for my bulging, egg-filled thorax everyone

>>>>w<<<<

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agreed


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