[Seraph]

Perhaps they should have limitations on their stats rather than RPL gains or DR reductions. 

I.E: they can’t use X-potions or maybe they can have a different cap system/formula for their stats.

However, I think  We should not punish anyone because they want to play kids. Say no to nerfing kids.

[ry0un0suke]

Children have half AP gain and -10% DR and can't app for hiddens unless they want to be denied. I'm not seeing the issue here. Everyone is ignoring the fact that these children are magi children like Esme said. What this sounds like is people just don't want to lose to an eleven year old kid. Just say that. There's no immersion broken because a lot of these children are children of war and forced to grow up and take up cadethood or a sword. The immersion breaking is thinking that these war orphans should be defenseless so adults don't get their teeth kicked in by an RPL 150 kid with -10% DR. It seems like many are ignoring that fact and any IC that children characters have. These kids train relentlessly so just take your L. They shouldn't be nerfed because they're close to beating you or you're just shit at verb but, if they're nerfed then they're nerfed. 
 
There is no appeal to being a child, also. Especially if you're someone who doesn't RP all the time. You're less 'ahead' than when starting at 14. If anything, sounds like a 'play a better kid' thread while also ignoring the kid's IC. If anything, talk about adults who take it upon themself to discipline random, likely orphan kids themself? That's a little weird but yeah, give kids -80% DR, less stats and more punishments when they're already worse than playing a bit older. They're magi children. Take your potential L with pride. 
 
Talk about interactions between some of these adult characters and children characters while you're at it. IC gets ignored or belittled for whatever reason and I'm threatened with limb removal and people's red text includes thoughts of feeding me to demons for... being an angry and stubborn eleven year old? And then restrain 1 cap perming also. Yeah, fuck them kids.
 
But nerf kids with incomplete bars, less RPL and barred from hiddens. 
I think there's one child above 180.

[Chance]

100 - 180 is purposely fast, but it's still difficult to hit in a week. The highest RPL characters that are 14 years or under are just breaching it, and most have existed for roughly two weeks. Typically a fresh character is also roleplaying a lot because motivation is high, so I don't mind that pace.

Halved AP gain at 13 and under & -10% DR until you're 18. You aren't crippled beyond play, but anyone who's half decent can probably defeat you since they have a higher RPL and possibly a hidden. To the ones who can't, they're just below average as far as their fighting potential goes. That's fine.

I believe the only change that's worth making to age DR at the moment is to lower it from 50 to 40, or even 35. Assuming you started at 15, that's 125 days of activity, about four months. At that point, you should probably do less instigating and the spotlight should naturally move on over to the next generation anyway. 50 was appropriate back when the year speed was 4 days per year, but now it's 5 and things have slowed down fairly because of that. Also, age -dr caps out at -10% now, so it's a light handicap at most compared to the -30% it could reach in Spires.

[Sandpaper]

Talk about interactions between some of these adult characters and children characters while you're at it. IC gets ignored or belittled for whatever reason and I'm threatened with limb removal and people's red text includes thoughts of feeding me to demons for... being an angry and stubborn eleven year old? And then restrain 1 cap perming also. Yeah, fuck them kids.

When it comes to the timeless rule of 'talk shit, get hit', age is just a number.

[Jumpy]

I believe the only change that's worth making to age DR at the moment is to lower it from 50 to 40, or even 35.

[Toxicity]

Baby 10 Year Olds Who Are The Plot Now are stupid and bad and forces you to make at the youngest age in a wave of a stupid babystorm or else you have no chance of relevancy. I had people ask me to retcon Odins children to be playable now because Alexander's are when ..... Alexander is 8 years older than Odin and pushing that age means he and Aradia had them at 16, just so mine wouldn't be left in the dust.

It goes the other way, too, that if characters arent ushered to the side, theyll stay center stage. Even when they're not someones main anymore, because now their character is 30 and has kids and theyve started as one of their friends kids to play at that same time, they do it on another key and keep their old character in political spotlight but at the side, only coming out when needed.

Bich I just wanted to play/got asked if i could play a noble kid. That's it, it didn't have anything to do with 'keeping up'. The new wave? None of that matters, nor will it to some people, like me. My original idea is what I'm currently doing and they are still a child.

I don't agree with age nerfs, simply because these same people will turn around and argue the same when it comes to aging. No one wants to lose, I get it. But this is just another form of 'this build is too strong, nerf it.' When not everyone has the same problem.

Builds are nasty and verb skills start showing as older people rebirth/make alts and it isn't cute. I can admit that kids who try and flex on adults are not cute. But in the same vein neither are adults who legit try and flex on kids. Most of the time they are the ones who even start the fight. They want to 'teach manners' and 'respect' when you can just give them a verbal lashing. You don't have to VERB them and beat the fuck outta them to get your point across and if you do?

Well i dunno what to tell you folks.
I do agree that kids are kids, and that unless there is a particularly good reason, much like the current IC. There shouldn't be kids running around going ham on things.

But I already feel like the halved gain in RPP represents their stunted growth.
Just because they rp A LOT doesn't mean you should go 'yeah it's not working, they're still gaining fast. let's punish them more.'

[Sanguine415]

Kids can suffer. Just keep old people age DR capped at 10% pls. It's still a noticable handicap, but I can still at least WIN fights on Task. Old 20-30% basically made being old unfun.

[Chance]

In the event that a child is playing poorly, trying to valid kill or threatening people in LOOC, we'll raise their -DR to 30% until they're 18 and warn them. This comes after a 13 y/o a-helped if they could kill someone on very shallow grounds. It'll only be reserved for the most egregious of play (the vast majority are fine).

[Enginseer-42]

Honestly, just make it so it banks AP for all the time the kid RPs then at 17-18 gets one massive check for all their RPL.

[Hunts Alone]

that was possibly the worst suggestion i've ever heard on these forums, zero cap.