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Alright, jokes over
#1
Time to nerf Crystal. 

I know, sounds crazy.  But lets stop pretending like nothing is wrong with this tree. It's to the point where I think theres a reason behind why its not getting nerfed and I dont see a logical one. 

Let's break this down a bit, don't think its complicated or even that much-- debateable, but lets talk about this.

Shard shot: -10- seconds. -10- Range. 7.5 Damage. 

Moving on,

Shimmering Javelin: I dont really find a problem with this one. The CD matches other attacks, like Bone, if anything, I think the CD is too high for a skill shot projectile. So I'd even say lower this CD to like-- 18

Crystal Wall : The only reason this is balanced is because its 31 seconds. Its a -damn- good spell that appears rather quickly and  counters a vast amount of players with some really solid damage. But fine, you have to pay this many rpps to get here, and its 31 seconds, fine.

Shardform: This is the single most value Aura in the entire game without an app, and beats alot of App-ing auras too .30 Pow, 15 Vit , 25% DR when stunned.  I say, tone this down to 20 pow, 10 vit 25% stunned. Not a big deal, but just bring it down to other auras that didnt have to be app'd for. This one is clearly above the rest.

Formation. Of. Crystals. I'm not the first person to unsuccessfully try to nerf this. Because it's first defense cried out from the heavens, is that its random.

Maybe those people never saw a Crystal user fight, but there are so many spawning crystals, you are -bound- to get the crystal you want with the  spell that is the starter of the tree. What is actually -disgusting- about this, is in a game so limited in spells CDs, CC, value. Crystal formation gives you -so- much.

You'd think my problem is the AP. Honestly, keep the AP. Most people get AP for free anyhow with Auras, A crystal user has to earn the Crystal by atleast doing effort, even if they're getting  a AP toward one of the best Auras in the game with few competition.

No. My biggest problem , is the Speed up + cleanse.

No. 
This is a Byond game with limited mechanics , functionality, and diversity
Combing these 2 things is going -backwards-

The speed up and cleanse meta was around in Eternia 1, and the game went through a long series of pretty much removing speed ups because of how disgusting a speed up in a game like this is. But then the person who made Crystal had the BALLS, after a tree giving so much value, to actually add a -cleanse- to this speed up that last a long time -already- .  AND THEN  you can pick up as many crystals you want, anytime you want and is more than possible with the speed up, THAT YOU CAN STACK. So you can actually -reset- the Speed up and cleanse while healing / adding more AP

Crystal is an absolute balanced Joke.

I just gatta be blunt here. The fact this tree is defended in anyway shape or form doesnt even baffle me. It scares me, that someone thinks there is -nothing- wrong with Crystal. 
#2
i mean,

you are not wrong

shardshot is statted above most regular homing despite having the crystal chance

crystal aura is insanely better than any other non app aura (and most app auras)

speed up is pretty broken and it includes a cleanse of slows (speedups only counter)

my suggestions: nerf numbers on shardshot and crystal aura, rework blue to give temp DR or something
#3
Did wiess beat up RodXI
#4
Make shard shot linear like earth bomb/fireball/blood bullets.
#5
imagine watching someone competent to make full use of everything at his disposal then someone asks for a nerf

Sarasha> nerf ice blizzard and gbomb
Kris> nerf metal stuns and DR
zack> fuck energy

all examples of my combos that people asked to get nerfed.
its not the trees, lets admit it. It's The HaTeD player being prudent and figuring out how to use it to its fullest.

Crystal is RNG for its effects. Sorry.
It's not even just teraphim's fault. its the full combo of everything I put together. individually? cant nerf one cus alone theyre not good.
#6
turn shardshot into a non homing (blood darts, fireball, etc)

ur stats for crystal aura are fine (still better than most auras, if not the best public aura)

bring back the nerf from spires to formation. the heal took a massive nerf there and it wasn't transferred to e3, ever.

but ultimately i do think that the tree could live without nerfing (or at least, minor ones) if the new race didn't exist. but they do. so... yeah.
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Me at 23:30 EST when rod has yet to post today:


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#8
making shardshot a non-homing would make it pretty useless, even the extreme high damage linear spells like in sand aren't regarded highly
#9
(04-03-2020, 03:32 AM)Hated Wrote: It's not even just teraphim's fault. its the full combo of everything I put together. individually? cant nerf one cus alone theyre not good.

i'm not sure i follow this combo since you're a basic teraphim/crystal/armed user. there's no real gimmick there

on topic: agreed to an extent. while i do think certain spells could be toned down slightly (the damage on the homing, the heal on green crystals) the tree overall isn't absurdly good. it makes teraphim a decent cut above average for sure
#10
(04-03-2020, 03:36 AM)Oyster. Wrote: making shardshot a non-homing would make it pretty useless, even the extreme high damage linear spells like in sand aren't regarded highly

sand is the worst one because it's also the slowest, yes. fireball/earthball/blood darts are all amazing spells

(04-03-2020, 03:32 AM)Hated Wrote: imagine watching someone competent to make full use of everything at his disposal then someone asks for a nerf

Sarasha> nerf ice blizzard and gbomb
Kris> nerf metal stuns and DR
zack> fuck energy

all examples of my combos that people asked to get nerfed.
its not the trees, lets admit it. It's The HaTeD player being prudent and figuring out how to use it to its fullest.

Crystal is RNG for its effects. Sorry.
It's not even just teraphim's fault. its the full combo of everything I put together. individually? cant nerf one cus alone theyre not good.

ice blizzard was nerfed because of asphira if anything lol, and those nerfs happened before sarasha even existed (?) it's just that spell was still bugged
metal: do i need to mention teemo and all the other metal/sand users who were nerfed because their trees were just TOO oppressive? it was never about one person
energy: what

please. not every time something is balanced you need to jump and scream that it's being done against YOU. because it isn't. no changes happen against people.
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