(09-19-2022, 11:04 PM)CuriousCat Wrote:(09-19-2022, 10:54 PM)Seeker Speaker Wrote:(09-19-2022, 03:28 PM)chance Wrote: Considering removing Rebirth potions or at least changing it so it refunds 1 tree rather than the entire kit. Unsure.
I've been giving this a think, so why not toss in my two cents. Maybe...
On one hand, I like how Rebirths work at the moment. Being able to redo an entire build twice before RPL 200 is pretty fun. But that's a mechanical fun, and most of the time I'm all for mechanical fun but...
- Can only be used twice.
- 200 RPL restriction, after that no go.
- Will refund everything EXCEPT attunements.
There's something that makes me feel... meh/bleh about redoing an entire build. Like all of it. I could if I wanted to swap into an entirely different build without sticking to the core fundamentals of my character (And I did on Ryllie, literally swapped from fire to straight up all Metaphysical. Sure, it was a character arc involving religion but even then...).
If you make it that it can't refund attunements, then the original, core concept of the magic of a character HAS to be kept. A time mage cannot simply drop out of metaphysical. A magma mage cannot simply drop out of fire, etc etc...
Oh. Also. I'd make it that occultism and exorcism CANNOT be refunded via a rebirth. IDK if it can be refunded but... Yeah that sorta magic shouldn't go poof period.
That's called a Mana Amnesia bud.
Mana Amnesia's don't refund openers.
So if you buy into Magma, you cannot refund the magma opener with an amnesia potion my friend.
What I'm pitching - Yes I'm Seeker if nobody knew it yet- is that it refunds the opener of advance trees, but not the attunements of base trees. So, whereas with an Amnesia you can refund up to Magma opener, a Rebirth could instead refund up to the fire attune.
(09-19-2022, 11:03 PM)Touc Wrote: EDIT:
Addressing Seeker, you can't learn Occultism if you've learned Holy magic and vice versa. Both kinds of magic literally corrupt your system and if you were to try to learn one after learning the other (even with a rebirth potion) I'm fairly sure you'd explode.
Ye, I know that. But considering the application/mentoring nature of Occult/Holy, as well as the IC & lore tied to it... I just don't think Rebirths should affect it. That's a tree someone should be stuck with period, because it takes some kind of IC to actually use it.
Rebirthing out of Occult or Holy is just a disservice to the character that got it through their IC at that point. But that's a my opinion sorta thing.
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