Hello, welcome to my thesis on why moment apps suck. I thought it was quite cool when it was announced, but now I've realized that it really boils down to exactly what it says in the tin- admin discretion over whether to try and tip the odds of a fight.
Moment apps (a colloquial term) are described as 'a power upgrade during a high stakes battle where you are the underdog'. To this end, moment apps usually wait until the first round is finished to see who wins and by how much. There's also commentary to not stall rp waiting on moment apps. An example of a moment app is against an 'arch nemesis'. Okay. Now that we're familiar with all of this...
Two major problems.
1. Most of the benefits of another hidden are going to give a limited advantage, unless they're insanely op. How much stronger are you going to get if you're given, optimistically, a 10% ap toggle buff? You'll get about 5-10% stronger. There are some hiddens that are insane and can really bridge the gap... but remember this is typically coming after losing the first round. So we know exactly what the difference was. So, point two...
2. The benefits of adding another hidden are so controllable and minor that it basically comes down to admins tipping the scales of a close fight. Perhaps it is different in practice- this is the conclusion made through an objective analysis of the rules. If the fight is hugely one sided, one hidden isn't going to make a difference unless it's hugely OP. Now remember these fights are supposed to be high stakes, not cap 0s.
Now, some of you might be reading this and think...
Yes, retard, that's the entire point of moment apps.
If that's the case, then I'm posting in rejection of the entire point of moment apps. I think the reward for such a system (an extra spark of cool roleplay, underdog winning) is not worth the potential pain (the idea that your winning or losing a fight is basically decided on admins voting yes or no to a moment app). Especially compounded as there appears to be no reasoning provided on why or why not a moment app might be given at any time.
TL;DR outcome of a fight basically being in admin hands bad.
Thanks for listening.
p.s. mutants and skeletons and everything are still constantly in cities, my other suggestion is to either let go of the banning them rule or MAKE IT MORE OBVIOUS GOOD GOD.
edit: unless the guy is waiting on a journal check for a hidden and you decide to look over that and grant it to him in the middle of the fight. that's cool
Moment apps (a colloquial term) are described as 'a power upgrade during a high stakes battle where you are the underdog'. To this end, moment apps usually wait until the first round is finished to see who wins and by how much. There's also commentary to not stall rp waiting on moment apps. An example of a moment app is against an 'arch nemesis'. Okay. Now that we're familiar with all of this...
Two major problems.
1. Most of the benefits of another hidden are going to give a limited advantage, unless they're insanely op. How much stronger are you going to get if you're given, optimistically, a 10% ap toggle buff? You'll get about 5-10% stronger. There are some hiddens that are insane and can really bridge the gap... but remember this is typically coming after losing the first round. So we know exactly what the difference was. So, point two...
2. The benefits of adding another hidden are so controllable and minor that it basically comes down to admins tipping the scales of a close fight. Perhaps it is different in practice- this is the conclusion made through an objective analysis of the rules. If the fight is hugely one sided, one hidden isn't going to make a difference unless it's hugely OP. Now remember these fights are supposed to be high stakes, not cap 0s.
Now, some of you might be reading this and think...
Yes, retard, that's the entire point of moment apps.
If that's the case, then I'm posting in rejection of the entire point of moment apps. I think the reward for such a system (an extra spark of cool roleplay, underdog winning) is not worth the potential pain (the idea that your winning or losing a fight is basically decided on admins voting yes or no to a moment app). Especially compounded as there appears to be no reasoning provided on why or why not a moment app might be given at any time.
TL;DR outcome of a fight basically being in admin hands bad.
Thanks for listening.
p.s. mutants and skeletons and everything are still constantly in cities, my other suggestion is to either let go of the banning them rule or MAKE IT MORE OBVIOUS GOOD GOD.
edit: unless the guy is waiting on a journal check for a hidden and you decide to look over that and grant it to him in the middle of the fight. that's cool