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Nerf Light. Its too strong.
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I haven't fought a light user myself, though I concur.

People have tried comparing it to jab in this thread, but there are two main differences that allow one to prepare to counter jab, compared to lightspeed:


1) Jab requires you to get close enough to attempt it, which can be punished with the right spells and/or kiting.


2) Most importantly, Jab has windup. I can not stress this enough. If someone uses a move that causes someone to dash towards you, a quick enough reaction time can let you use a spell to either counter it, or defend from it. You can see the attack coming, and defend.

As for lightspeed? It has a much higher range, though that can be credited to it having a much higher CD than Jab however.

The problem, if I understand the spell correctly, is that it is GCDE, with no wind up. I don't mind the GCDE- If any spell that was made for the purpose of getting close with no or absymal damage had GCD, it'll be useless to use.

The no wind up however, is what can make that spell heavily powerful- As someone already stated, utility spells can be more useful, and more game-changing than direct damage spells.
Since light speed has no wind up (or even an icon to signify one's use of that spell, if that's true), there is no way to tell on the spot that someone is about to use it.

Thus, lightspeed becomes one of, if not, the safest distance-closing moves, with no wind-up frames before use, can't be stopped during teleportation (it's instant after all), and the only feasible I can see to counter or at least trade against that move, is to try and cast a spell before them to hit before they do.

Such a counter/trade is unlikely, however. As people pointed out, the user of lightspeed teleports to the back. This leaves the defender having to rely on a step-cast ability in order to hit quick enough, while the light user does not.
As some might have noticed, step-cast abilities have longer windup times because they have to move first before activating the spell. Even if it is only a small amount of time, it puts such spells at a disatvantage against someone who uses a no step-cast ability at the same time.

Lastly, I should point that such a reaction, even while it is still in the light user's favor- Due to lightspeed's instant activation and teleportation time, the defender has to rely on prediction instead of reaction. Against a move that can be used at any time, from almost any range.

If my understanding of godspeed is correct, then it indeed sounds as a heavily powerful, and useful skill.


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Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 09:43 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Mordere - 12-26-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Method T - 12-26-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by TheHopscotch - 12-26-2019, 10:10 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 10:13 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-26-2019, 10:13 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 10:21 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-26-2019, 10:24 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 10:31 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Gold - 12-26-2019, 10:37 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-26-2019, 10:40 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-26-2019, 10:41 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-26-2019, 10:43 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 10:50 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-26-2019, 10:55 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 10:56 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-26-2019, 10:58 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Cloutio2x - 12-26-2019, 11:03 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Itome - 12-26-2019, 11:11 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hoovyking - 12-26-2019, 11:13 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 12-26-2019, 11:14 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Gold - 12-26-2019, 11:21 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-26-2019, 11:25 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 12-26-2019, 11:27 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-26-2019, 11:28 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-26-2019, 11:29 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Itome - 12-26-2019, 11:30 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jash - 12-26-2019, 11:32 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-26-2019, 11:35 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 11:38 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Gold - 12-26-2019, 11:40 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Kennyramroop - 12-27-2019, 03:54 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Suke - 12-27-2019, 04:38 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Oyster. - 12-27-2019, 07:59 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Dimmie Dunce - 12-27-2019, 08:43 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Detective100 - 12-27-2019, 01:01 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-27-2019, 06:19 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Detective100 - 12-27-2019, 06:34 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-27-2019, 06:39 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by BrahmsFrost - 12-28-2019, 11:05 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Cloutio2x - 12-27-2019, 06:42 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-27-2019, 08:19 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Magik - 12-27-2019, 08:24 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-28-2019, 01:53 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 12-28-2019, 01:56 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-28-2019, 02:10 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Gold - 12-28-2019, 02:13 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-28-2019, 02:25 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-28-2019, 02:32 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-28-2019, 02:54 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lammy - 12-28-2019, 04:34 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-28-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-28-2019, 05:04 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by BrahmsFrost - 12-28-2019, 05:06 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lammy - 12-28-2019, 05:13 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Chance - 12-28-2019, 05:14 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-28-2019, 05:17 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Chance - 12-28-2019, 05:18 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-28-2019, 05:18 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lammy - 12-28-2019, 05:22 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-28-2019, 05:22 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-28-2019, 05:30 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Mordere - 12-28-2019, 05:32 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-28-2019, 05:46 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by BrahmsFrost - 12-28-2019, 05:59 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Itome - 12-28-2019, 06:32 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-28-2019, 06:58 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Magik - 12-28-2019, 07:37 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 12-30-2019, 04:36 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lammy - 12-30-2019, 04:37 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-30-2019, 04:40 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Sokkxx - 12-30-2019, 04:40 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Starry - 12-30-2019, 04:44 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Magik - 12-30-2019, 07:13 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by OMNI - 12-31-2019, 03:35 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-31-2019, 04:41 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by OMNI - 12-31-2019, 08:06 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Chance - 12-31-2019, 08:20 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by OMNI - 12-31-2019, 08:27 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-31-2019, 08:41 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by OMNI - 12-31-2019, 08:53 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Sokkxx - 12-31-2019, 08:56 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-31-2019, 09:34 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Starry - 12-31-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-31-2019, 11:01 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 01-01-2020, 12:13 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 01-01-2020, 12:40 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 01-01-2020, 12:50 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Mordere - 01-01-2020, 01:03 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 01-01-2020, 01:04 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 01-01-2020, 01:11 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 01-01-2020, 06:21 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Milly - 01-01-2020, 06:55 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 01-01-2020, 07:03 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hoovyking - 01-01-2020, 09:38 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Myradin - 01-01-2020, 10:10 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by spellzer - 01-01-2020, 10:42 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 01-01-2020, 01:26 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Chance - 01-01-2020, 02:01 PM

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