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Nerf Light. Its too strong.
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I think it's really of bad faith for people to say that the teleport is nothing and weak because on its own, it does nothing but teleport.
People act like utility doesn't matter.
Jab has a windup, and even with the windup jab is a bit much if given too much range. Utility is the strongest thing in any well balanced game-- for my League players, it's why Riven is always relevant in the game. And why champions like Vayne and Kai'sa (and now Aphelios) can be so scary. Because they've got a bunch of utility built into their kit that gives them non-damage based power that makes outputting or mitigating damage a huge problem.

Lightspeed has probably double, maybe triple the range of jab. And it's GCDE. It does nothing on its own, except re-position you to the opponent's back from an insane range, allowing you to bypass any and all skillshots and instantaneously land your own skillshots or drop your own stun combos. There's no windup, there's no way to prepare for it outside of getting a feel for your opponent's habits and knowing the CDs of everything on their bar.

Imagine a light cosmic energy user who lightspeeds behind you. No big deal right? It cost 20 RPP, did no damage. All it did was dodge your... Let's say... It dodged your mud-slide, or your meteor, or something. Then next thing you know you're getting spiral bombed in the back, then star rained, following an invigorate or something, then scattered lights while you're stuck on that slow AoE, powered up, then alpha blast or whatever it's called from the energy tree-- or a nova ray, or a prism beam, or anything.

Now imagine you can kite all match and constantly guarantee that combo by just hitting lightspeed from a range twice that of your opponent's dash-tackle, dash-fatal, dash-dash range. And even if they time your CDs, you still can just hold out until they mistep, and then with one press of the button you guarantee your whole combo. On repeat.

Imagine this with any other tree. Imagine this with just holy and just doing this with holy cannon. Imagine doing this with the double holy AoE. Imagine doing this with nova ray. Let's not pretend that Lightspeed teleport does no damage. Because it's the key to all the damage.

Maybe if it were retooled into a charge abiility, that made the user light up whiter and white over the course of the charge as a 'tell' to prepare the opponent for what was coming. Otherwise you basically just have a long-range flash.

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Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 09:43 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Mordere - 12-26-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Method T - 12-26-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by TheHopscotch - 12-26-2019, 10:10 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 10:13 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-26-2019, 10:13 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 10:21 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-26-2019, 10:24 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 10:31 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Gold - 12-26-2019, 10:37 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-26-2019, 10:40 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-26-2019, 10:41 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-26-2019, 10:43 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 10:50 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-26-2019, 10:55 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 10:56 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-26-2019, 10:58 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Cloutio2x - 12-26-2019, 11:03 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Itome - 12-26-2019, 11:11 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hoovyking - 12-26-2019, 11:13 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 12-26-2019, 11:14 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Gold - 12-26-2019, 11:21 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-26-2019, 11:25 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 12-26-2019, 11:27 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-26-2019, 11:28 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-26-2019, 11:29 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Itome - 12-26-2019, 11:30 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jash - 12-26-2019, 11:32 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-26-2019, 11:35 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-26-2019, 11:38 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Gold - 12-26-2019, 11:40 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Kennyramroop - 12-27-2019, 03:54 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Suke - 12-27-2019, 04:38 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Oyster. - 12-27-2019, 07:59 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Dimmie Dunce - 12-27-2019, 08:43 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Detective100 - 12-27-2019, 01:01 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-27-2019, 06:19 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Detective100 - 12-27-2019, 06:34 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-27-2019, 06:39 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by BrahmsFrost - 12-28-2019, 11:05 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Cloutio2x - 12-27-2019, 06:42 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-27-2019, 08:19 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Magik - 12-27-2019, 08:24 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-28-2019, 01:53 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 12-28-2019, 01:56 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-28-2019, 02:10 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Gold - 12-28-2019, 02:13 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-28-2019, 02:25 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-28-2019, 02:32 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-28-2019, 02:54 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lammy - 12-28-2019, 04:34 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-28-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-28-2019, 05:04 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by BrahmsFrost - 12-28-2019, 05:06 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lammy - 12-28-2019, 05:13 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Chance - 12-28-2019, 05:14 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-28-2019, 05:17 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Chance - 12-28-2019, 05:18 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 12-28-2019, 05:18 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lammy - 12-28-2019, 05:22 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 12-28-2019, 05:22 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-28-2019, 05:30 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Mordere - 12-28-2019, 05:32 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-28-2019, 05:46 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by BrahmsFrost - 12-28-2019, 05:59 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Itome - 12-28-2019, 06:32 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-28-2019, 06:58 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Magik - 12-28-2019, 07:37 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 12-30-2019, 04:36 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lammy - 12-30-2019, 04:37 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-30-2019, 04:40 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Sokkxx - 12-30-2019, 04:40 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Starry - 12-30-2019, 04:44 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Magik - 12-30-2019, 07:13 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by OMNI - 12-31-2019, 03:35 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-31-2019, 04:41 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by OMNI - 12-31-2019, 08:06 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Chance - 12-31-2019, 08:20 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by OMNI - 12-31-2019, 08:27 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-31-2019, 08:41 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by OMNI - 12-31-2019, 08:53 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Sokkxx - 12-31-2019, 08:56 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 12-31-2019, 09:34 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Starry - 12-31-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 12-31-2019, 11:01 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 01-01-2020, 12:13 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 01-01-2020, 12:40 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jetniss - 01-01-2020, 12:50 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Mordere - 01-01-2020, 01:03 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 01-01-2020, 01:04 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Lorelai - 01-01-2020, 01:11 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by CurledSpiral - 01-01-2020, 06:21 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Milly - 01-01-2020, 06:55 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hated - 01-01-2020, 07:03 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Hoovyking - 01-01-2020, 09:38 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Myradin - 01-01-2020, 10:10 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by spellzer - 01-01-2020, 10:42 AM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Jess - 01-01-2020, 01:26 PM
RE: Nerf Light. Its too strong. - by Chance - 01-01-2020, 02:01 PM

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