Part 3 of Fru's Demands[Completely (un)Warranted] (COMING SOON!)

[Toxicity]

not all applications are the same. intermediates aren't as closely looked at as exalted abilities, for example.

we also take into account how many hiddens a person has. while your first hidden application could be an easy "yes", the second one could take a lot more thought and discussion to reach a conclusion.

That's understandable, but the reasoning behind some of the denials that have been given are quite unacceptable, especially, when there have been characters who possess more than one hidden and still, easily attain it over others who have something minor. In general, I think that admin should lighten up considerably because some of these things that I'm seeing isn't too good. If you want, we could discuss this in pms but...I doubt we'll still see eye to eye on the matter.

And on another related(but not so related) note, I think the wikipedia should be updated.

unfortunately i also doubt we'll see eye to eye on this, but i do also understand where you're coming from.

for the most part, i do try to be lenient when it comes to someone's first application (unless it's for an exalted ability). the issue arises when someone applies for a lot of hiddens and various perks, and i personally judge applications for second (or god forbid, third) hiddens much harsher than i would for a first one. this isn't something all the other admins follow, but that is how i look at applications. i judge subsequent apps mostly on the level of exalteds no matter the actual tier.

as a note, i do realize that there aren't balanced hiddens for each magic tree. this isn't something we have a lot of control over, but i do agree that for certain builds it can be difficult to find a decent hidden that works.

Very understandable- I hope that it doesn't seem as if I'm trying to crucify the admin team or anything, because I get it...Sometimes, going through apps all  day can be a little bit tiring and judgement can vary from time to time. I guess a lot of what makes me curious is mostly me wondering how the 'process' is...Although, I'm sure it's quite simple. Either way! Thank you for your feedback, it's appreciated.

It's a pretty simple process, yeah. We all vote, and if we're conflicted we'll discuss it further. Some apps are easier than others. We take a lot of things into account that isn't necessarily reflected in the denials, but I've been trying to get better about writing more helpful denials to some of the apps that give us trouble.

This game is a very subjective game, as is natural of RP games. We can't follow any "strict" guidelines for what a good app is, because everyone's app is different and each admin usually has differing opinions. If the votes are split, someone has to make a final decision and that can sometimes be stressful and difficult. We do understand how hard it is to post an application and put your effort out there, but we unfortunately can't approve every application.

But I hope this at least shed some light on how we handle applications.

No! It hurt my feelings. (Truthfully I just kinda roasted Dani and we had a good laugh.)

I do understand the application process is probably one of the most difficult things because as players, and as admins, both sides are looking from their opinion(subjective and otherwise professional). And that can make or break some people when they get denied. Some don't take it as constructive, some take it as chili being thrown in the pot when they were making spaghetti.

But I've always felt it was pointless to get upset over it really, because a denial just means they want to see more of the character and see you reach a particular point, and an approval kind of means the same thing? You're given it because they believe you've done a substantial amount, and want to see more now with the added power/fluff.

I will say though, that I get it from both side.

Now...

Why did my agility get nerfed. I barely crit as is with a decent crit rate, why do you want me to suffer more now with lower crit damage.