Path of Wordsmithing has been labeled wrong in the new faith system

[DreamsOfBlue]

From my perspective I think there's some accidental cross-talk happening here - which is to say your *religion* can be totally in favor of good things, but the *force itself* that you worship is inherently malign. Like for an example, consider somebody who was trying to build a positive church around Hel, in the idea that Despair is an important and meaningful part of the human experience. That idea could totally be true, but Hel itself as the being is antithetical enough to the rest of the world that anybody venerating him would by necessity be an apostate. I.e., whatever your faith says, it can't change the nature of the god/force itself.

I suspect this is maybe two different streams of lore counteracting each other?

You seem like you might be coming at this from the angle where Order/Chaos are two naturally balanced halves of the same whole, ala what I believe is the nature of arcane magic from like E2? (disclaimer, am a noob).

But in E4 with Chaos/Discord intentionally being Belial/Ba'al's spanner in the works from a nice pleasant happy cosmology, Harmony might be the good alternative to Chaos's evil, in the basic lore of the theme.

I do think that kind of sucks for what you're trying to do, but maybe there's an angle where it's not chaos itself you're venerating, but something more like... Freedom?

The disconnect her is that Chaos is not Ba'al, but the force that Ba'al created.  Its like saying oh you have occult therefore you are on the side of Helheim. This is literally the same thing that people are doing to me here.

Just because I am using Chaos, which is something that ba'al created, doesn't mean I am antagonistic to the world or that my faith is. It only means I am using which ba'al created.


I see it exactly as it is: A force that was created to destroy/destabilize creation. And I'm sure many of you are not aware of this, and I hate that I'm now forced to spoil this, but Chaos's special ability is to literally create things out of thin air that shouldn't exist in creation. Its like having cheat engine on and adding line of codes to the world that weren't intended by the creators.

Its easy to see how that could be used by ba'al to attempt to destroy creation, but its also easy to see how that could be used to make the world a better place.


And my religion sees creation as already altered by Chaos. It already is not as it was intended to be, thanks to ba'al's meddling.


I'm just looking to use that Chaos to do good, instead of having it ruin the world like Ba'al intended.


None of this clash with any of the existing lore.