03-15-2024, 09:04 PM
From my perspective I think there's some accidental cross-talk happening here - which is to say your *religion* can be totally in favor of good things, but the *force itself* that you worship is inherently malign. Like for an example, consider somebody who was trying to build a positive church around Hel, in the idea that Despair is an important and meaningful part of the human experience. That idea could totally be true, but Hel itself as the being is antithetical enough to the rest of the world that anybody venerating him would by necessity be an apostate. I.e., whatever your faith says, it can't change the nature of the god/force itself.
I suspect this is maybe two different streams of lore counteracting each other?
You seem like you might be coming at this from the angle where Order/Chaos are two naturally balanced halves of the same whole, ala what I believe is the nature of arcane magic from like E2? (disclaimer, am a noob).
But in E4 with Chaos/Discord intentionally being Belial/Ba'al's spanner in the works from a nice pleasant happy cosmology, Harmony might be the good alternative to Chaos's evil, in the basic lore of the theme.
I do think that kind of sucks for what you're trying to do, but maybe there's an angle where it's not chaos itself you're venerating, but something more like... Freedom?
I suspect this is maybe two different streams of lore counteracting each other?
You seem like you might be coming at this from the angle where Order/Chaos are two naturally balanced halves of the same whole, ala what I believe is the nature of arcane magic from like E2? (disclaimer, am a noob).
But in E4 with Chaos/Discord intentionally being Belial/Ba'al's spanner in the works from a nice pleasant happy cosmology, Harmony might be the good alternative to Chaos's evil, in the basic lore of the theme.
I do think that kind of sucks for what you're trying to do, but maybe there's an angle where it's not chaos itself you're venerating, but something more like... Freedom?