08-30-2023, 03:36 AM
(08-30-2023, 02:55 AM)GSM Wrote: I’d also like to point out that even though Xarxes runs 4 invulns, he isn’t one of the main offenders of the invuln stacking problem, per se. Yes, he runs 4 invulns, but his gameplan isn’t to stall you out and outlast you for 10 minutes while healstacking; all of his invulns if chained together don’t last as long as the fucking Summoner invuln at 10 seconds.
He blows you up. And he is damn good with his bar. The tournament proved that, even when literally gimped from 30 RPP and having some of the power he’s been accruing for months OOCly being taken away, he knows his bar better than 90% of most players know theirs.
And if he is only limited to one invuln, his build will be forced to get more aggressive, because if he messes up even slightly, he explodes. Xarxes has 12 perms, has been around for more than nearly every other character currently active with exceptions being in the low single digits, and has earned every single inch of power he’s gotten, but every time he displays how good he is mechanically with what he has been given, he is consistently thrown under the bus.
Every single time I’ve been with this guy and he is allowed to do something, without fail, people bitch about it. He’s a co-lead for my faction, yet he wasn’t allowed to participate in defensive raids twice in a row because of how strong he was. And if he doesn’t run invulns, you will be quickly reminded that the damage output in a usual RPB is so obscenely fucking high that running an invuln is basically necessary at this point.
Also- why would you ever namedrop Death’s Door in a balance sense? That costs 300 Undeath that took months to accrue. He worked for it, and it isn’t even an actual invuln.
Idk, I’m just tired of Xarxes being named and shamed like he’s some great threat to the balance of everything. Probably incoherent, I just woke up.
Xarxes as a character is so strong that he can openly walk into enemy territory knowing that there won't be anyone able to do anything about it. He's done that the last two days, as a matter of fact. It's common sense that a character of that power would be denied permission to partake in a defensive raid, because he's quite literally a guaranteed +1 to your side. That isn't fun for anyone but the side that claims him. Furthermore, as someone who came very close to beating him in the tournament when he was arguably at his weakest, I can confidently say that the problem that people see with his build are the several invulnerabilities that he runs.
You mentioned that he has perms, or that he's very squishy and can be blown up easily, and that may be true! However, the fact that he has the bar that he has completely negates the IC consequences of bearing those injuries, making them irrelevant in this conversation. His build is very, very oppressing because he can dish out his incredible damage, and then kite you using invulns and move speed, and then repeat another high damage combo.
He doesn't need to outlast you, because he'll obliterate you in two, maybe three rotations at most. My character had 250 vit when fighting a nerfed Xarxes, and while the battle was really fun, it doesn't take away from the fact that he would've lost if he didn't have 2-3 invulnerabilities to cycle through. And P.S... you can't say that Summoning invul lasts longer than his combined invulns as a valid argumentative point, because Xarxes will likely never have to chain them one after the other. He can use an invuln, kite, use another one, and who knows? By that point, his rotation might be back up with an invul to spare.
He's a great guy, and he plays his character well, but to not mention him as the pinnacle of invuln abuse screams of bias.