Nerf AP Stacking(Cosmic)

[Prestige]

I agree.
But, with that said, I don’t think Occult as a tree is as oppressive as Holy. The ap ‘stacking’ from occult is minor. Meanwhile, holy has two shields, two aoes that give you dr, etc. Both trees are strong atm, and I’d argue that Holy is stronger. DR vs AP is never comparable ofc, DR is stronger period. Holy paired with shadow (imo shouldn’t be a thing) is way too oppressive and has too many tools that allow you to cover your mistakes.

I do think that cosmic aoe’s slow should be tuned down a bit, along with some rework for invig. Maybe make it a bigger ap boost, but just for cosmic / light. Rewards true cosmic mages, but the spell is no longer a req in the tree so it doesn’t hurt anyone.

This is false.

Actually, I'm not a number cruncher, but it has been proven in the past that AP stacking >>>> DR stacking. The AP-stacking from occult is not a minor thing, either....I'm not sure why people would think otherwise, especially when they, too, can get upwards of 20% from just sitting on their AOES. I'm not certain as to why you are looking at the tree as a stand-alone either....(that's not the priority of this thread).  This thread is mainly about cosmic, it's ability to AP stack in tandem with other things that give easy amounts of AP such as Occultism, Crystal, (Easy cosmic hiddens), and more. If you bypass this...Just remember that I told you so when my next character comes.

To say that cosmic's damage already took a hit doesn't change the fact that the slow is any less oppressive, especially for how huge the aoe is. It needs more spankings, sorry...not sorry.

I don't disagree about the aoe. I think the slow should be adjusted, but with that said, I don't feel as if the dmg needed the nerf / should be nerfed. Once the slow is balanced the dmg should return to what it was.

Invig is a spell that gives you 10% ap for 10 seconds. Nothing else. No damage. And you slot it on your bar. It isn't bad, but it isn't amazing. Coupled with other trees it can be, sure. But it's hard to say 'oh because Occult and Cosmic together give a lot of AP, we should nerf cosmic'. At least... I disagree with that. But you are entirely wrong when it comes to DR vs AP. AP is more accessible, no doubt about it. But DR is stronger. Period.

I still think that holy offers a tad too much atm, more than Occult - but it's also one of the rare trees that could contend well vs melee until now, so idk. 

With that said, please behave. I don't want to lock this thread because you guys are throwing insults at each other over a balance discussion. We're all adults.