06-27-2020, 09:10 AM
Hey! Very appreciative of all the replies and thoughts bouncing around, just thought I'd add this before a reply.
Absolutely. But I think this is more of an OOC problem than it is an IC problem. I'm not against living through the harshest conditions on my characters- That is strictly what being a Demon / Mimic in this atmosphere entails- But rather the mentality of a few players in the game that make this not an IC issue, but an OOC issue of winning the game and slaughtering their competition while it still stirs.
While living through the problems that being a Demon / Mimic entails - The added problem of these creatures being very easy to valid-kill, and certain members of the community doing just that - Makes me want to fiercely combat the current rules and advocate for one that emphasizes cooperation, cohesion, and storytelling. This is a roleplaying game, right? My point being- I want better etiquette, and rules that can be enforced to ensure our standard response to first/second encounter, capture setting 1 kills isn't - "Shit happens."
Perhaps Demons aren't on the chopping block, and I don't make this topic purely in selfish desire - But today a Mimic fought in a Dangerous 1 against the Teraphim 'Ro' that was 60 RPL above him. This mimic was captured and instead of being allowed spare development and avenues to flesh out their story, they were hauled to Myllenoris where they would surely be executed. And that is exactly what happened. In my opinion, he never should've been dragged back to the slaughterhouse. I'd love for Vriska and co's continuous suggestion to be taken in this situation - ICly aim to kill them, deal damage, let them go. This is an egregious RPL difference, first or second encounter, etc.
But suggestions only go so far - I'm asking for the rules and etiquette to shift in the direction of being courteous - And cooperative - So that the above is no longer a suggestion, but an expectation - And maybe even a lightly enforced rule. I think we can do better, I hope we can. The 1 cap kills and bounds and leaps in RPL differences aren't an often occurrence - But they shouldn't be an occurrence at all. Would it be so horrible to look into a rule like: "In neutral territory, characters who have a 20 RPL difference should automatically get a cap 0 as an etiquette." This would fix most qualms that people have with these rare but unfortunate occurrences. It's already a dangerous, right? I think it'd help to keep bloody wounds from festering.
I'd love this - For Demons and Mimics and generally people who support and enjoy the direction they're taking, I support it wholly. A little nudge of support for us and the others really braving this hell is acknowledged and greatly appreciated. Thank you, seriously.
(06-27-2020, 08:06 AM)chance Wrote: it's on demon antagonists to organize themselves and find IC solutions to IC problems. you can't really blame the average character for not wanting to sit down and have a lengthy conversation with a giant spider - their natural response will be to fight or to run, most of the time
Absolutely. But I think this is more of an OOC problem than it is an IC problem. I'm not against living through the harshest conditions on my characters- That is strictly what being a Demon / Mimic in this atmosphere entails- But rather the mentality of a few players in the game that make this not an IC issue, but an OOC issue of winning the game and slaughtering their competition while it still stirs.
While living through the problems that being a Demon / Mimic entails - The added problem of these creatures being very easy to valid-kill, and certain members of the community doing just that - Makes me want to fiercely combat the current rules and advocate for one that emphasizes cooperation, cohesion, and storytelling. This is a roleplaying game, right? My point being- I want better etiquette, and rules that can be enforced to ensure our standard response to first/second encounter, capture setting 1 kills isn't - "Shit happens."
(06-27-2020, 08:06 AM)chance Wrote: i've not seen many demons killed. very few actuall. we have a log of every dangerous/deadly rpb that takes place which means it isn't like we're missing anything. the last one is even a demon beating someone in an RPB it looks like?
Perhaps Demons aren't on the chopping block, and I don't make this topic purely in selfish desire - But today a Mimic fought in a Dangerous 1 against the Teraphim 'Ro' that was 60 RPL above him. This mimic was captured and instead of being allowed spare development and avenues to flesh out their story, they were hauled to Myllenoris where they would surely be executed. And that is exactly what happened. In my opinion, he never should've been dragged back to the slaughterhouse. I'd love for Vriska and co's continuous suggestion to be taken in this situation - ICly aim to kill them, deal damage, let them go. This is an egregious RPL difference, first or second encounter, etc.
But suggestions only go so far - I'm asking for the rules and etiquette to shift in the direction of being courteous - And cooperative - So that the above is no longer a suggestion, but an expectation - And maybe even a lightly enforced rule. I think we can do better, I hope we can. The 1 cap kills and bounds and leaps in RPL differences aren't an often occurrence - But they shouldn't be an occurrence at all. Would it be so horrible to look into a rule like: "In neutral territory, characters who have a 20 RPL difference should automatically get a cap 0 as an etiquette." This would fix most qualms that people have with these rare but unfortunate occurrences. It's already a dangerous, right? I think it'd help to keep bloody wounds from festering.
(06-27-2020, 08:06 AM)chance Wrote: what i would like to see a large dark forest in the north west that can be entered through a warper, and with a handful of private areas that'd be a good hideout. if you get 225 rpl's just idling there to gank, then they'll be at risk of 2v1 since it's loosely demon "territory". something like that?
I'd love this - For Demons and Mimics and generally people who support and enjoy the direction they're taking, I support it wholly. A little nudge of support for us and the others really braving this hell is acknowledged and greatly appreciated. Thank you, seriously.